http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/07/25/ortiz-vs-franklin-henderson-vs-belfort-on-deck-for-ufc-103/
apparently the ufc pulled the henderson vs franklin 2 fight off the website and took the article down.....so these two match ups could be happening and if they do.....ufc 103 just went from okay the better than 101 and 102
WOW WOW WOW WOW this would be awesome, the edition of these two fighters not as just actual talent but names as well will both add depth and awesome match ups in there own divisions, i really hope that the UFC pull this off would be awesome, also pull off Brock vs FEDOR in January, please UFC please :)
i presume the winner of hendo-vitor gets the next title shot against anderson? if the fight ends up happening? pretty solid matchups. a whole lot better than hendo-franklin 2 imo.
Events are moving faster than Mike Swick's hands the last 72 hours or so.
And yeah, the UFC should scrap Hendo-Franklin 2, at least for a while. I mean that fight just dropped like 6 months ago, right?
Anyone REALLY wanting to pay another $50 to see Hendo ground out another yawn-tastic win over Franklin, that ultimately does nothing for either man's career?
Like a week ago carls was calling for Tito-Franklin at 103, and I mentioned a couple days ago on another thread that I wanted to see Hendo fight Belfort if the UFC signed him, which is looking more and more like done and done.
Also, if Anderson Silva ever gets around to defending his MW title, considering all of the GSP noise surrounding both men, I'd like to see Hendo get a second shot at the title, but in all honestly Demian Maia deserves first shot, and I say this as a longtime Hendo supporter.
@ truemmafan - I know a lot of guys want to see Fedor-Lesnar, but it won't happen anytime this calendar year, if ever. Fedor has one fight left on his existing Affliction/M-1 Global/Adrenaline/Russian Mob/Soviet Red Devil contract, so I'd imagine that Fedor's final fight for that trainwreck org will be on a card of their own, or that new made-up MMA thing that Fedor's Uncle Vadim's calling Breakthrough or something like that.
After that, who knows?
Fedor's been reluctant to sign on the dotted UFC line before, when he had a chance to fight an older man like Randy Couture. I can't imagine Fedor being all that delighted to sign a UFC contract to face a manimal like Brock Lesnar in a cage.
Consider this, Lesnar is larger and stronger than Fedor, to the tune of 3 inches and 50 pounds of solid muscle come fight night, matches Fedor's ground game credentials with a championship college wrestling pedigree of his own, and as proven in the Mir fight is learning the fundamentals of catch-wrestling, as taught to him by Greg Nelson and Erik Paulson.
Check Justin's forum topic on this. There's a video and everything.
Lesnar has been called a quick athletic study, and nearly made the NFL's Minnesota Vikings having not played football since high school. He's beaten Randy Couture and Frank Mir and gained the UFC HW championship in 5 fights, so imagine what sort of opponent for Fedor he'll be in another 6-12 months, especially if Lesnar is serious about MMA, as appears to be the case?
If a pudgy, rusty Fedor steps into the cage with a neanderthalic Brock Lesnar, who will be rocking a newly-developed catch-wrestling skillset to go along with his bad attitude and horrifying g-n-p, the Last Emperor will be fortunate to leave the Octagon under his own power.
I take no joy in posting this, but I have been asked by several people here at the frenzy I repsect to try and assess Brock Lesnar the fighter more objectively, and put my personal feelings for the man aside after flaming him on these boards for nearly 2 straight weeks or more.
Objectively, I see Fedor getting mauled by the new-model Lesnar.
End of story.
i was really looking forward to more brock-flaming by you jcohl. there were always a few lines that would make me laugh when you made a post about him.
i read that the affliction fighters that were supposed to fight at triology may very well fight in the M-1 "breakthrough" event on august 28th. after that maybe a few lucky souls will sign with the ufc.
there's not much people for GSP to fight but theres a few for anderson silva hendo, maia, and GSP. but alot of people are forgetting about marquart he got a chance against maia. but i see maia having a better chance with anderson silva.
i was kind of looking orward to hendo - franklin 2 i beleive franklin won that first fight but if won it would mess up the whole anderson fight for hendo so i lose &win either way.
no doubt marquardt has a chance against maia. maia really hasnt shown standup skills and this will be his first crack at a top mw. there is something to be said about maia's skills as a mixed martial artist though. his opponents know he wants to take the fight to the ground, and they want to keep it standing, yet somehow maia still takes them down. and once they are on the ground its just a matter of time until he submits his opponent. he blends judo very well into his game. marquardt is no slouch on the ground i believe he is a blackbelt in bjj so it will be tough for maia to sub him, yet he has subbed multiple blackbelts before so... i am counting the days until 102 for the maia-marquardt matchup.
Maia-Marquardt has the potential to be an archetypical fight for 21st century MMA.
I hope it lives up to that potential.
And bigchris2328, sorry to disappoint you on the lack of Brock-flaming, my friend, but I think I've posted my case, repeatedly and at great length, and made my feelings clear, to the point where I think it made some people uncomfortable. I was asked to give the man some breathing room, and be objective, so I'm doing that very thing.
Maybe if everyone gives Lesnar a chance, he may yet develop into the sort of MMA fighter, and champion, that doesn't make me cringe every time I read his name or hear his voice or see him on TV.
After all, there's a small glimmer of hope, as Lesnar took the time to sturdy some catch-wrestling with a real master in order to beat Frank Mir, so I'll keep on watching and waiting to see which side of the coin Lesnar lands on, so to speak.
I saw Franklin's Twitter update myself, so there could be some merit to this. However I do have to caution that 5oz tend to be more on the post now, verify later side of that fine line a website has to walk in striving to be fast and accurate. Not saying they are wrong all the time, but I trust them less than I trust other sites.
If this is ligit and comes to be. Then a card with names like Ortiz, Franklin, Hendo, Belfort and Cro-cop, could end up being one of the bigger PPV events of the year.
Fingers crossed
Funny the difference a couple weeks makes.
When I first started posting at the frenzy, people were kicking dirt onto the shoes of 103 for being lackluster, with its, "Rich Franklin versus whoever we can dig up" main event.
Just a few days back, Hendo decides to do the promotion another favor and take another relatively meaningless fight with Franklin.
And again the frenzied were understandably underwhelmed by the prospect of another yawn-tastic Hendo-Franklin throwdown in less than 7 months.
Now, after Affliction has collapsed, and the dust is just starting to clear a bit, it looks like 103 has the potential to be every bit as hardhitting as 100 was.
Hendo-Belfort is a rematch a lot of MMA fans have been waiting for, and I like Hendo's chances for a second victory, especially now they they'll be fighting in a cage.
While Ortiz MAY be coming back a bit too soon, he and Franklin should make for a decent fight. A technical striker and a throwback g-n-p'er, I think the difference here will be Franklin's almost definitely superior cardio and overall sharpness. Tito's been on the shelf for awhile, and Franklin is a tough first fight back for anyone, let alone a guy who's been out for more than a year.
Lets hope they get these fights signed, sealed, and delivered at 103...
At this point it almost seems that this card could be to good to be true. I stole this from the rumors.
■Rich Franklin vs. Tito Ortiz
■Dan Henderson vs. Vitor Belfort
■Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic vs. Junior dos Santos
■Mike Swick vs. Martin Kampmann
■Efrain Escudero vs. Cole Miller
■Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
■Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca
■Tomasz Drwal vs. Drew McFedries
■Sean Sherk vs. Gleison Tibau
■Rob Emerson vs. Rafael dos Anjos
■Eliot Marshall vs. Jason Brilz
Like every fight is solid. Anyone who has the chance to see this card(povided it looks like this when its officially announced)definately should.
carls - I wouldn't be surprised one bit if you just didn't post the 103 line-up, my friend...
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